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hahaha...never mind!... :goodjob:
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mone hoitase important jinis miss korsi..........oi khelmu na...........comment porte pari nai....removed kan????????
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1 page jete na jetei jodi ei obosta hoy then ki bolbo ar. ekta healthy discussion chachilam. conflict/oppose/support hotei pare. bepargula ke easy kore neyai bhalo :D

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Amit... lets say removed is a concept of an item that's not being there when it was supposed to. Now you can make some ideas about what that item might have been. LOL.
Let s move on to the main topic.
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zahidur59 wrote:Amit... lets say removed is a concept of an item that's not being there when it was supposed to. Now you can make some ideas about what that item might have been. LOL.
Let s move on to the main topic.

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hahaha...that's good :)
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smasif wrote:hahaha...that's good :)
Jonab amra apnar explanation sunte agrohi :D
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Concept and Idea to me -

Concept is a very broad term; where ideas are small parts of a concept. A concept will be fulfilled by a series/sequences of ideas.

CONCEPT = IDEA 1 + IDEA 2 + IDEA 3

Example 1:
I want to decorate my wall. This is a concept. Now how can I decorate my wall?
Idea 1 – I can put piece of colorful papers
Idea 2 – I can paint the wall with different colors
Idea 3 – I can glue piece of glasses in my wall
And so on…Different strategies will be required/used to implement those ideas.

Example 2:
iPod is not a concept. It’s the extended/modern (with the help of modern technology) idea of a concept - walkman. Before walkman there was nothing by which you can move with and listening music.

Example 3: Zoo Zoo advertisement
It’s a concept that few characters will act to deliver a specific message such as Exam result, beauty tips, international roaming etc. Characters will be cartoon type, they will be cute, they will not talk with usual languages, they have their own language.
Now generate different ideas for different problems- beauty tips, international roaming and so on. When characters are acting, delivering messages, they need to fulfill the main theme and those are - they should be cute, they will not talk in usual language etc.

Like that “Kache Thakun” for Grameen Phone is a concept. Now “parents-children”, “Husband-wife”, “2 Friends”, “Customer Service” can be different ideas where “Kache Thakun” concept can be applied.

Or “Kache Thakun” can be an idea of a concept- “Emotion”.

So it’s obvious that the term Concept is used for broader meaning. And usually concept comes first and then idea. This is my understanding so far. Since concept is an abstract thing and lot of scholars/scientists defined concept differently in their own way. According to John Lennon – “God is a concept by which we can measure our pain” :roll:
I will put some more nice quotes on concept if you are interested, though those were very hard for me to understand...hahaha.... anyway comments/argue on my reply are most welcome.

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so nice I agree with u and ami bujtaparsi ... sudu akta question astasa or amai ai jaigata clear na ...
mona koran ami akta sobi akmu ... apner kothamota aita concept and ami color canvas brush use kora sobi banalam ja idea ar different stages ar babohar ...
or ami mona korlam akta poem likhbo so aita concept and aki vaba o ki likhbo bakita amar idea ar different stages ...

abar akjon viewers amar kasha janta chilo apner cobir concept ki ... ami taka sudhu jodi boli ami sobi akbo or kobita likhbo aita concept ... tahola mona hoy cholba na ...

karon ami sobiakar aga chinta korbo ami kano sobi akbo? amar sobi ki kaja ashba? ami kader jonno akbo? ami ki akbo? amar aga ki ki vaba and kano aka hoto? ... jodio ai janta choa gulo akdikdia ami sobi akbo ai chinta korar pora ... but ashola ai chinta gulo ami sobi akbo ai chinta tar aga ... tai concept or idea jatai aga hokna kano ... amar kasa dutai impotent ... aita khube soja kotha ja

gasar dala ghosha laga bona agun jollo then manush concept palo then tara nijara tader projon moto agun jalabar idea bar korlo ...

amra cave ar wall a sobidhaki and onak agar manushar jibon somporka janta pari mana concept pai ... jara aisobi aksilo tara ai sobithaka sikarkorar idea nito ... mana time parthokar karona aki jinishar dui roop ...
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Yes, from the beginning i was close to this.

@ Tariq Bhai apni akta chobi akben, atar concept hote pare "Road of Dhaka City", and ki vabe object gula k place korben those are all ideas. :)

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amit wrote:Yes, from the beginning i was close to this.

@ Tariq Bhai apni akta chobi akben, atar concept hote pare "Road of Dhaka City", and ki vabe object gula k place korben those are all ideas. :)

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ami to asif vhai ja bolsa tar shatha akmot and bujtaparsi ... tar por o apni aita liksan kano bujlam na ... apni mona hoy amar kotha thik bujta paran nai ... ami ashola asif vhai ar kotha gulika aro bashe juktita anta chitasilam ...

jaihok apnaka onak dhonnobad ... (B)
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awesome! I am agree with both of you Tariq bhai and Amit. let's discuss again to clear more. ekhane 2 ta bepar ache. 1 ta bepar Amit discuss kore feleche and 2nd one Tariq bhai pore discuss koreche. tao ami abar clear kori amar idea theke.

bepar 1 -
Tariq wrote:mona koran ami akta sobi akmu ... apner kothamota aita concept ...
Apne ekta chobi akben. amar kotha mote(bepar 1 ee) eita concept na. concept hoche apne ki akben age thik koren. keno akben chobita? kader jonno? ki mean korte chan? kono shomoshsha ki represent korte chan? bla bla.. taking Amit's example- "Road of Dhaka City". ok this is my concept. now ami dhanmondir road akbo, eita ekta idea, ami old dhakar road akbo, eita arekta idea. ami tera rasta akbo, metho poth akbo, ekekta idea. same as kobita likha. "chora kobita" ekta concpet, "sonnet" arekta concpet. now "oi dekha jay taalgach" ekta idea for concpet(chora kobita). ekhon kono exhibition ee eshe keu jodi bole apnar concept ki?, bolben "Road of Dhaka City" :D

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Tariq wrote:mona koran ami akta sobi akmu ... apner kothamota aita concept and ami color canvas brush use kora sobi banalam ja idea ar different stages ar babohar ...
eibar amra arektu pichone jai with Tariq bhai's above statement. Yes "ami chodbi akbo", "kobita likhbo", "obhinoy korbo" ekekta concept. jegula onek agei develop hoye geche. dhore nen ekhon amra oi shomoye jokhon art/poem/drama abishkar hoynai :D 3 jon(asif-tariq-amit) okorma boshe ache gacher niche...hahah...hothat kore tariq er mathay ashlo ami kaporer canvas ee chobi akbo or cave ee chobi akbo...tokhon art kora itself ekta concept. it's your concept. It's new concpet to draw. I think apne eitai bujhate cheyechen. jehetu apne ekta way ber kore felechen to draw, jeta age keu abishkar kore nai, so it's a new concpet. eibar brush diye aken or charcoal diye aken sheta apnar icha. and ekta chobi akar por jodi keu eshe bole apnar concept ki? bolben "chobi aka" :D

edike Amit bhablo ami obhinoy kore shomajer problem, situation tule dhorbo. now how can i do that? "Stage performance"(moncho natok). I hope oi shomoye technology abishkar hoynai :D so Amit come up with a new concpet - DRAMA, where participants ra shamajik problem tule dhorbe. as ages passes by - cinema, jatra, tv-drama, serial, telefilm are ideas of concept-drama.

so amar majhe majhe mone hoy - "Canvas age invent kore pore bhablen eita diye ekhon ki kora jete pare?" OR "ami ekhon akte chai, so koi akbo? canvas banai and oita akte use kori" eki kotha. kind of agee murgi na age dim. jei ee age ashuk bhai, dim/murgi to khete partesi and ei dim diye koto kichu kora jache..more or less shob khabarei dim use kora hoy, dim er je koto item, koto use sheta shobai jani :D

so "kichu akte mon chaise tai canvas abishkar hoise" OR "canvas banaisi ekhon eitake kaje lagate hobe" sheta jai ee hok bhai, ART concept ta to abishkar hoye gese. and oi canvas use kore manush ekhon koto rokom concept(Road of Dhaka) mean kortese sheta to amra very often ee dekhi.

so at the end amar mote tariq bhai er assumption/claim and amit er example are 100% right to my understanding. Tariq bhai concept ta broader way te mean korsen, which is bepar 2 and Amit smaller way. but both are concept.

amar gyan eitukui :skull:
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100 CHEERRS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! akhon apatoto aita sas bola jai ... jodi pora kono Q asha then ask korbo and amar mona hoy aro new topik nia alochona kora jata para ... ai practices ta khub valo ... Asif and Amit vhai Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!1 again ...
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yes, if you have any other opinion/view on this then please share. we will discuss and clear our thoughts. I am looking for other topics and post soon.

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